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▸ [Israel, Tal Law] PM, Mofaz try to save gov't despite Tal Law clash, Gil Hoffman, Lahav Harkov, Jeremy Sharon - Jerusalem Post

This piece is from JerusalemPost but quite readable - interjecting more ‘sensible voices/views’ on this issue - quite neatly. 

  1. Even if Kadima exits and even if ‘politics’ continues 
  2. There are measures military can implement (without new bill)
  3. And further negotiations can continue alongside 
  4. Thus - there can be still time - to have real deliberations and real agreement
  5. Though that means any players can still stir up the situation - meanwhile

But at least there are voices of sanity - within Israel - that this subject needs careful deliberation and agreement building, with long term stance. 

How much real thinking and negotiation away from ‘political farse' will clearly emerge - or otherwise. 

Have to wait and see. 

Mofaz said that if the Likud and Kadima are unable to agree on a new  law now, 10 or 15 years could pass before another opportunity arises to change the situation. He said the new law should be drafted with understanding for the demands of different parts of society, but also needs to include terms that compel service.

“We didn’t come to the coalition to wage war against haredim,” Mofaz told the yeshiva students. “I want the status of the haredi community in 15 years to be much better than today. I want haredim to be able to integrate into society, to advance your own future. It will be better for your society to achieve this as well as society in general.”

Ya’alon and Plesner will meet again on Thursday, but both sides expressed pessimism that the crisis could be resolved, especially amid the bad blood created by their public dispute.

If they fail to reach a compromise, it is likely that Kadima’s 28 MKs will leave the coalition, and the Defense Ministry will issue a directive refraining from arresting 18-year-olds who do not go to the army immediately when the “Tal Law” that facilitated exemptions from service expires on July 31. Meanwhile, efforts to draft a new law could continue over the summer.

“Without a meaningful solution that will make history, we will not remain in the government,” Mofaz told the Kadima faction. “We are in a crisis, but there is an opportunity and a small period of time to solve it. If there won’t be a decision soon, we will leave.”

According to Plesner, he walked out of a meeting with Ya’alon because negotiations on a universal service bill had hit a “dead end” after the minister backtracked on key issues. Plesner’s associates warned that Ya’alon was trying to turn the bill into “a copy of the Tal Law,” which allowed haredim to indefinitely postpone service, and render it “empty of content.”

Ya’alon rejected Kadima’s claims that there was a “blow up” in the meeting with Plesner, saying he only heard that talks were off via the media. He said it was Kadima that had backtracked on the quota issue but that he was ready to negotiate again.

“We will bring more people sharing the burden in the Arab and haredi sectors with or without Kadima,” Ya’alon said. “There is a principled argument on whether we want more haredim in the army or to declare war on the haredim. They are insisting on throwing haredim in jail. Throw people in jail for studying Torah? If we do that, all the progress that has been made with the programs that there already are will go backward.”

In an interview with the haredi radio station Kol Chai, Ya’alon accused Plesner of wanting to “declare war on the haredi sector.”

“We need to [enlist yeshiva students] gradually, because the army can’t prepare itself to absorb masses of haredim on one day, and we don’t need to start putting people in jail because of this,” he said. “We want [national] unity along with the draft, and not a civil war without a draft. If we declare war on those studying Torah and say that we’ll put in jail whoever doesn’t enlist, then we won’t succeed in drafting anyone.”

Labor chairwoman Shelly Yechimovich had urged Mofaz to announce in the Kadima faction meeting that his party would immediately quit the coalition, “and stop the political farce surrounding the Tal Law, which will not yield real results even if a new law is approved.

“Elections should be held in September and this was avoided just because of a political exercise of survival,” Yechimovich said. “Now we have to go to the public and let it have its say in a wide range of significant issues in Israeli society.”

Source: jpost.com

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